Wednesday, 3. November 2004
252 - 254

Mind back on the elections!

It's close, 252 to 254 for Bush with three states left to gather all votes (about 1% of precints left in each)...

New Mexico - 5
Iowa - 7
Ohio - 20

Iowa is less than .5% pro-bush at the moment so that could help although a projected vote for Kerry will not make him win...

Ohio has had doubt cast on some of its voting methods so it might need to go to the courts (again)...

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how do the voting rules work? please post how their voting is organized and how it's counted!

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Ohio, also ahve around 150'000 votes that will only be counted in 11 days time. These are the votes that came in by post.

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on the bbc homepage under "electoral college" it explains how the voting works.. and the exceptions..

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election result may take a long time to be valid

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/states.vote/index.html

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In a nutshell

(for those that don't want to sift through loads of crap about the voting system)

Each state in the US is allocated a certain number of electoral college votes roughly proportional to the population of the state. This means that each state has its own 'weighting' out of the total of 500 and something votes.

The problem with the system is that the majority of the states (but not all) allocate all of their votes to the winner within the state. That means that if one candidate wins by a very slim margin in a state, they will likely get all that states votes. This system means that it is possible to win the presidential elections but not have the majority of the individual votes* (see 2000 elections).

N.B. Some states do allocate their electoral college votes proportionally - Colorado tried to change their laws in order to do that this voting year but it was turned down.

* This is known as the popular vote.

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Does Ohio really want a president like this?

http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_bushisms.html

http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/george_w._bush/

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/weekly/aa040301b.htm

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Number one issue from the exit polls was:

Moral Values - Stem Cell Research (Abortion) and Gay Marrige

Poeple are more concerned about gay people getting married than iraq.

WTF

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really depressing, if we think that gay marriage is still about a minority and most people seem to estimate unborn life more important than actually born poeple getting killed every day

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Saw an episode of csi the other day where the agents did an obuction on an embrio. All of them were really upsett and there were violins playing in the background. The main actor then broke out in a melancolic moment of deep contemplation.

Meanwhile you switch over to CNN and there is a report of some solidiers shooting a wounded iraqi, 20 people getting bombed as they demonstrate in the streets of basra followed by the report that the estimated !civilian! death toll is revised up to 100'000...

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